[OpenSIPS-Users] [RFC] Deprecating mi_xmlrpc

Bogdan-Andrei Iancu bogdan at opensips.org
Tue Oct 7 12:11:02 CEST 2014


The trunk (development code) was switched from 1.12.x to 2.1.x and you 
can get the URL from http://www.opensips.org/Downloads/Downloads#toc4.

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Regards,

Bogdan-Andrei Iancu
OpenSIPS Founder and Developer
http://www.opensips-solutions.com

On 26.09.2014 16:48, Satish Patel wrote:
> Where is the trunk git URL to download latest 1.12.x?  does it ready 
> for production?
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Ovidiu Sas <osas at voipembedded.com 
> <mailto:osas at voipembedded.com>> wrote:
>
>     Are we ready to deprecate the mi_xmlrpc module now (for 1.12)?
>
>     -ovidiu
>
>     On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Bogdan-Andrei Iancu
>     <bogdan at opensips.org <mailto:bogdan at opensips.org>> wrote:
>     > Hello all,
>     >
>     > Bringing some light here : none of the xmlrpc implementations
>     offer a
>     > structured reply
>     >
>     > From the "deprecation" point of view, we need to be sure:
>     > 1) the new mi_xmlrpc-ng module is a perfect substitute to the
>     old one
>     > (providing the same unstructured reply)
>     > 2) the new mi_xmlrpc-ng module can also provide a structured
>     reply - this
>     > definitely is something good for the future
>     > 3) OpenSIPS CP must be migrated (there are some things that need
>     to be
>     > changed) to be compatible with both modules.
>     >
>     > Ovidiu (mi_xmlepc-ng) and Alex (opensips cp) are already heavily
>     working to
>     > achieve the 3 goals above (many thanks to both of them).
>     >
>     > As noticed, the old mi_xmlrpc module was not deprecated in 1.11
>     - there are
>     > small but many things to be done to 100% ensure a smooth
>     transition. Still
>     > this is work on progress and it will be done for next release.
>     >
>     > Many thanks,
>     >
>     > Bogdan-Andrei Iancu
>     > OpenSIPS Founder and Developer
>     > http://www.opensips-solutions.com
>     >
>     > On 19.03.2014 21:55, Brett Nemeroff wrote:
>     >
>     > JSON+http sounds fantastic. It's like.. Starting to sound a like
>     a RESTful
>     > server.
>     >
>     > I'm pretty sure others will jump on this. I know I would.
>     > -Brett
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Ovidiu Sas
>     <osas at voipembedded.com <mailto:osas at voipembedded.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> The new module is built on top of the httpd module which has a
>     >> parameter to define the size of the buffer.  If you need large
>     >> replies, then you need to adjust the buffer size accordingly.
>     >> http://www.opensips.org/html/docs/modules/devel/httpd
>     >>
>     >> That buffer is used by all modules that are sitting on top of the
>     >> httpd module, and there's one single process dedicated to all http
>     >> requests (no interference with SIP workers).
>     >>
>     >> Regards,
>     >> Ovidiu Sas
>     >>
>     >> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Brett Nemeroff
>     <brett at nemeroff.com <mailto:brett at nemeroff.com>>
>     >> wrote:
>     >> > I think there are some other issues with the size of the
>     return data. I
>     >> > know
>     >> > for one that the mi_udp method has a buffer size limit. If
>     you hit this
>     >> > limit I think it very quietly truncates the data. I can't
>     100% verify
>     >> > that
>     >> > since it's been a long time since I've used it.
>     >> >
>     >> > I believe you can paginate the data, but the problem is that
>     you can't
>     >> > guarantee consistent results paginating data when the data is
>     changing
>     >> > constantly. I'm not really sure on the background how this is
>     handled;
>     >> > maybe
>     >> > a locked list or something.. but not sure if it'd affect
>     performance at
>     >> > high
>     >> > velocity. Seems like something. somewhere would be affected..
>     either
>     >> > performance or accuracy.
>     >> >
>     >> > My point being, care needs to be taken that the method can
>     produce
>     >> > consistent results; even for large datasets. If data is going
>     to be
>     >> > truncated or we run out of SHM, there needs to not only be an
>     error log,
>     >> > but
>     >> > I think the out put needs to say something as well.
>     >> >
>     >> > -Brett
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Dragomir Haralambiev
>     >> > <goup2010 at gmail.com <mailto:goup2010 at gmail.com>>
>     >> > wrote:
>     >> >>
>     >> >> I totally share Brett's feelings! For me dlg_list_ctx over
>     the new
>     >> >> module
>     >> >> causes lots of headaches when dialogs go over 100 or so.
>     Structured
>     >> >> output
>     >> >> would resolve such problems. I am totally in for structured
>     SJON format
>     >> >> too!
>     >> >>
>     >> >>
>     >> >> 2014-03-19 21:07 GMT+02:00 Brett Nemeroff
>     <brett at nemeroff.com <mailto:brett at nemeroff.com>>:
>     >> >>
>     >> >>> I think the only reason for that is backwards compatibility
>     with stuff
>     >> >>> written for the other mi interfaces.
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>> Honestly, my parsers for the MI output are ridiculous. It's
>     really
>     >> >>> complicated and prone to failure. I'd like to know if
>     others share my
>     >> >>> feeling here.
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>> For little things like "dr_reload" I don't really care.
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>> But for MI calls that return large amounts of user data, like
>     >> >>> dlg_list_ctx.. Parsing it is kind of ridiculous... Anyone
>     else share
>     >> >>> this
>     >> >>> feeling?
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>> I personally would love to see it structured in JSON format. :)
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>> -Brett
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>>
>     >> >>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Ovidiu Sas
>     <osas at voipembedded.com <mailto:osas at voipembedded.com>>
>     >> >>> wrote:
>     >> >>>>
>     >> >>>> Hello Brett,
>     >> >>>>
>     >> >>>> It is true that the structured output mode was not
>     implemented in the
>     >> >>>> new module.
>     >> >>>> It seems that having the output in one big chunk is the
>     preferred
>     >> >>>> method in the community.
>     >> >>>>
>     >> >>>> If there is a real demand for structured output, we can
>     take a look
>     >> >>>> into
>     >> >>>> it.
>     >> >>>>
>     >> >>>> Regards,
>     >> >>>> Ovidiu Sas
>     >> >>>>
>     >> >>>>
>     >> >>>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Brett Nemeroff
>     <brett at nemeroff.com <mailto:brett at nemeroff.com>>
>     >> >>>> wrote:
>     >> >>>> > I'd like to see the new module to be a drop in
>     replacement for the
>     >> >>>> > old
>     >> >>>> > one..
>     >> >>>> >
>     >> >>>> > That being said...
>     >> >>>> >
>     >> >>>> > I was pretty surprised when I started down the path of
>     the XMLRPC
>     >> >>>> > module
>     >> >>>> > that the reply isn't structured. It was just one big object.
>     >> >>>> >
>     >> >>>> > I'd like a selectable option on the module so that it either
>     >> >>>> > operates:
>     >> >>>> > 1. Legacy (one big output chunk)
>     >> >>>> > 2. Structured, parable for each output node.
>     >> >>>> >
>     >> >>>> > Really if we are talking "deprecating" we need to
>     support the old
>     >> >>>> > method
>     >> >>>> > primarily or there will be a lot of broken code out there.
>     >> >>>> >
>     >> >>>> > -Brett
>     >> >>>> >
>     >> >>>> >
>     >> >>>> >
>     >> >>>> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Bogdan-Andrei Iancu
>     >> >>>> > <bogdan at opensips.org <mailto:bogdan at opensips.org>>
>     >> >>>> > wrote:
>     >> >>>> >>
>     >> >>>> >> The whole idea is not to :)
>     >> >>>> >>
>     >> >>>> >> But more tests need to be done.
>     >> >>>> >>
>     >> >>>> >> Regards,
>     >> >>>> >>
>     >> >>>> >> Bogdan-Andrei Iancu
>     >> >>>> >> OpenSIPS Founder and Developer
>     >> >>>> >> http://www.opensips-solutions.com
>     >> >>>> >>
>     >> >>>> >> On 19.03.2014 17:39, Ali Pey wrote:
>     >> >>>> >>
>     >> >>>> >> Will this affect OpenSIPS-CP?
>     >> >>>> >>
>     >> >>>> >> Regards,
>     >> >>>> >> Ali Pey
>     >> >>>> >>
>     >> >>>> >>
>     >> >>>> >>
>     >> >>>> >> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Kneeoh
>     <kneeoh at yahoo.com <mailto:kneeoh at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>     >> >>>> >>>
>     >> >>>> >>> I'm all for the deprecation as long as the
>     documentation on the
>     >> >>>> >>> mi_xmlrpc_ng module is updated to a usable level. I
>     find myself
>     >> >>>> >>> referencing
>     >> >>>> >>> the documentation for xmlrpc and hoping that it holds
>     true for
>     >> >>>> >>> xmlrpc_ng.
>     >> >>>> >>>
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