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receiving 200 OK from destination but you must discard it if CANCEL comes
from caller instead of ACK. In fact i have seen some billing systems that
actually start billing upon receiving ACK from caller, rather 200 OK from
destination. To overcome the loss of few seconds (between 200 OK from
destination and ACK from caller), they use a different billing head called
"connection charges".

Thank you.


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:24 PM, M.Khaled W Chehab <kchehab at icucall.com>wrote:

> Please can you show me by code  the better way(ensure Cancel)  since this
> is a critical issue and I am relaying the cancel and after that trunk  send
> me more than 8 time 200 Ok  ,as is there a way to stop/hangup the call
> since I receive the cancel from the client ****
>
>  ****
>
> 2-what do you mean destination must be very quick ( since 200 oK is
> received  the normal reply (ACK) takes  millsec or I am wrong ?****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Regards****
>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Muhammad Shahzad [mailto:shaheryarkh at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:05 PM
> *To:* M.Khaled W Chehab
> *Cc:* users at lists.opensips.org; bogdan at opensips.org;
> users-bounces at lists.opensips.org; Muhammad Shahzad
> *Subject:* Re: ACK Timer****
>
> ** **
>
> This may work, only if you create dialog with 'B' flag, also 3 seconds
> look very short, destination must be very quick to ACK the call.****
>
> ** **
>
> I think there is a better way to achieve this, you only need to ensure
> CANCEL is received at destination.****
>
>
> Thank you.****
>
> ** **
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:45 PM, M.Khaled W Chehab <kchehab at icucall.com>
> wrote:****
>
> Hi ,****
>
>  ****
>
> I face a lot of scenarios where the customer send a cancel while the
> trunk send 200 OK and start the billing from its side ,so the client call
> will be canceled from his side and goes to the max call duration from my
> side and trunk side .****
>
> Si I draw this function below ****
>
> loadmodule "dialog.so"****
>
> modparam("dialog", "timeout_avp", "$avp(timeout2)")****
>
>  ****
>
> if (has_totag()) {****
>
>               if ( is_method("INVITE")) {****
>
>                      $avp(timeout2) = 3; ****
>
>               } else if (is_method("ACK")) {****
>
>                      $avp(timeout2) = 3540; ****
>
>               }****
>
>  ****
>
> Do this function effect on my calls or cause  any problem****
>
>  ****
>
> Regards****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> Khaled Chehab****
>
> Senior NGN Engineer****
>
> [image: Description: icucall]****
>
> Operations Office - Lebanon****
>
> Office    : +961 1 515155 ext 300****
>
> Mobile  : +961 3 045212****
>
> E-mail    : kchehab at icucall.com****
>
> MSN ID :khalidchehab at hotmail.com ****
>
> Skype    : k_chehab ****
>
> Web Site: http://www.icucall.com****
>
>                      http://www.allohi.com****
>
>  ****
>
>
>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> --
> Muhammad Shahzad
> -----------------------------------
> CISCO Rich Media Communication Specialist (CRMCS)
> CISCO Certified Network Associate (CCNA)
> Cell: +49 176 99 83 10 85
> MSN: shari_786pk at hotmail.com
> Email: shaheryarkh at googlemail.com ****
>



-- 
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-----------------------------------
CISCO Rich Media Communication Specialist (CRMCS)
CISCO Certified Network Associate (CCNA)
Cell: +49 176 99 83 10 85
MSN: shari_786pk at hotmail.com
Email: shaheryarkh at googlemail.com

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<div>Sorry i didn&#39;t see you are setting dialog timeout for=C2=A0sequent=
ial=C2=A0INVITE, instead of initial INVITE, so this timeout would actually =
have no effect on new call, it will effect only established call (e.g. when=
 caller or callee sets call on hold etc.) and when that sequential INVITE c=
omes in the destination has to accept it within 3 seconds, which is OK, sin=
ce call is already established, only its state being changed.</div>

<div><br></div><div>Secondly, a call is not considered established till ACK=
 arrives from caller party. Since caller never sends ACK, so destination sh=
ould end call (after 32 seconds per RFC 3261) even if it does not receives =
CANCEL from caller. And if destination receives CANCEL, then call should en=
d anyway. Such call can not be billed, since it was never established.</div=
>

<div><br></div><div>From billing the caller prospective, you should start b=
illing upon receiving 200 OK from destination but you must discard it if CA=
NCEL comes from caller instead of ACK. In fact i have seen some billing sys=
tems that actually start billing upon receiving ACK from caller, rather 200=
 OK from destination. To overcome the loss of few seconds (between 200 OK f=
rom destination and ACK from caller), they use a different billing head cal=
led &quot;connection charges&quot;.</div>

<div><br></div><div>Thank you.</div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T=
ue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:24 PM, M.Khaled W Chehab <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:kchehab at icucall.com" target=3D"_blank">kchehab at icucall.com</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"p=
urple"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Please can yo=
u show me by code =C2=A0the better way(ensure Cancel) =C2=A0since this is a=
 critical issue and I am relaying the cancel and after that trunk =C2=A0sen=
d me more than 8 time 200 Ok =C2=A0,as is there a way to stop/hangup the ca=
ll since I receive the cancel from the client <u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">2-what do you mean =
destination must be very quick ( since 200 oK is received =C2=A0the normal =
reply (ACK) takes=C2=A0 millsec or I am wrong ?<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Regards<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> <u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Mu=
hammad Shahzad [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:shaheryarkh at gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">shaheryarkh at gmail.com</a>] <br>

<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> M.Khaled W Ch=
ehab<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:users at lists.opensips.org" target=3D"_b=
lank">users at lists.opensips.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:bogdan at opensips.org" =
target=3D"_blank">bogdan at opensips.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:users-bounces@=
lists.opensips.org" target=3D"_blank">users-bounces at lists.opensips.org</a>;=
 Muhammad Shahzad<br>

<b>Subject:</b> Re: ACK Timer<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class=3D"h5=
"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thi=
s may work, only if you create dialog with &#39;B&#39; flag, also 3 seconds=
 look very short, destination must be very quick to ACK the call.<u></u><u>=
</u></p>

<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">I think there is a better way to achieve this, you only need to =
ensure CANCEL is received at destination.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">

<br>Thank you.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"=
margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">O=
n Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:45 PM, M.Khaled W Chehab &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kch=
ehab at icucall.com" target=3D"_blank">kchehab at icucall.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></=
u><u></u></p>

<div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi ,<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I face a lot of scenarios=
 where the customer send a cancel while the=C2=A0 trunk send 200 OK and sta=
rt the billing from its side ,so the client call will be canceled from his =
side and goes to the max call duration from my side and trunk side .<u></u>=
<u></u></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Si I draw this function below <u></u><u></u></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier=
 New&quot;">loadmodule &quot;dialog.so&quot;</span><u></u><u></u></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">

<span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">modpara=
m(&quot;dialog&quot;, &quot;timeout_avp&quot;, &quot;$avp(timeout2)&quot;)<=
/span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-autospace:none">

<span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">if (has=
_totag()) {</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-au=
tospace:none"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&=
quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 if ( is_method(&quot;INVITE&quot;)) {</span><u></u><u></u></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-autospace:none"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 $avp(timeout2) =3D 3; </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-autospace:none">

<span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 } =
else if (is_method(&quot;ACK&quot;)) {</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal" style=3D"text-autospace:none"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 $avp(timeout2) =3D 3540; </span><u></u><u></u></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-autospace:none"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 }</span><u></u><u></u><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Do=
 this function effect on my calls or cause =C2=A0any problem<u></u><u></u><=
/p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regar=
ds<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u>=
<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">

Khaled Chehab<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Senior NGN Engineer<u=
></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><img border=3D"0" width=3D"117" heig=
ht=3D"75" src=3D"cid:image001.png at 01CE0935.158D46E0" alt=3D"Description: ic=
ucall"><u></u><u></u></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Operations Office - Lebanon<u></u><u></u></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">Office=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 : +961 1 515155 ext 300<u></u><u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mobile=C2=A0 : +961 3 045212<u></u><u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">

E-mail=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 : <a href=3D"mailto:kchehab at icucall.com" target=3D=
"_blank">kchehab at icucall.com</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">MS=
N ID :<a href=3D"mailto:khalidchehab at hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">khalidc=
hehab at hotmail.com</a> <u></u><u></u></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Skype=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 : k_chehab <u></u><u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Web Site: <a href=3D"http://www.icucall.com" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.icucall.com</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
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llohi.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.allohi.com</a><u></u><u></u></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br clear=3D"all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">-- <br><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;;color:#888888;background:white">Muhammad Shahzad</span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#=
888888"><br>

<span style=3D"background:white">-----------------------------------</span>=
<br><span style=3D"background:white">CISCO Rich Media Communication Special=
ist (CRMCS)</span><br><span style=3D"background:white">CISCO Certified Netw=
ork Associate (CCNA)</span><br>

<span style=3D"background:white">Cell:=C2=A0+49 176 99 83 10 85</span><br><=
span style=3D"background:white">MSN:=C2=A0</span></span><a href=3D"mailto:s=
hari_786pk at hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1155cc;backgroun=
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font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#888888"><br>

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o:shaheryarkh at googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1155cc;bac=
kground:white">shaheryarkh at googlemail.com</span></a> <u></u><u></u></p>

</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all=
"><div><br></div>-- <br><span style=3D"color:rgb(136,136,136);font-family:a=
rial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Muhammad =
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rif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">

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